Explore the controversial topic of black holes in this thought-provoking talk by renowned physicist Wolfgang Kundt. Delve into the history of pulsars, examine the distinguishability of black holes from neutron stars, and question the existence of supermassive black holes. Analyze the M87 "picture" and the precession of S1, while considering whether black holes are truly a prediction of general relativity. Gain insights into Kundt's interactions with Stephen Hawking, discuss black hole entropy, and ponder the fear of mini black holes. Reflect on scientific discoveries without dates and the potential for a career in physics without relying on black hole theory. Conclude with an examination of the Gold Effect and its implications for astrophysics.