Explore the intricacies of agile transformation in this expert talk featuring independent consultant Kevlin Henney and early OO & agile adopter Fred George. Delve into the challenges of agile transformations, rediscovering the joy of programming, and maintaining a competitive edge for companies. Examine frameworks like Cynefin for tackling complex problems, discuss bottom-up transformations, and analyze leadership shifts in agile environments. Learn about handling impedance mismatches, responding to change effectively, and gain insights into what went wrong with Microservices. This 35-minute discussion offers valuable perspectives on modern software development practices and organizational agility.