Explore the intersection of industrial and digital product thinking in agility at scale through this insightful conference talk from GOTOpia Chicago 2021. Delve into the challenges of combining these two mindsets as agile coaches Anna Urbaniak and Daniel Terhorst-North discuss the shift from industrial to digital product thinking. Learn how to achieve autonomy with alignment by understanding the differences between agile-in-the-small and agile-in-the-large approaches. Discover pragmatic advice and useful tools for balancing industrial and digital thinking in organizational systems. Gain valuable insights on topics such as digital product mindset, industrial habits, alignment, autonomy, and autonomy liquidity. Benefit from the speakers' extensive experience in agile coaching and behavior-driven development as they provide practical strategies for implementing agility at scale in your organization.