Explore a thought-provoking conversation between author Lulu Miller and "On Being" host Krista Tippett at the Aspen Ideas Festival. Delve into the complexities of human nature as they discuss the challenges faced globally in the first half of 2020. Examine how people attempt to create order in chaotic times through hierarchies, categories, and divisions. Investigate the impact of these classifications on determining essential workers and addressing social justice issues. Analyze the problematic nature of categorization and the profound influence of language in shaping or reshaping our world. Gain insights from Miller's decade-long work on her book "Why Fish Don't Exist" and its relevance to contemporary societal issues. This 27-minute talk offers a unique perspective on navigating uncertainty and reimagining our approach to understanding the world around us.