Explore the complex motivations and backgrounds of Westerners who join ISIS in this thought-provoking interview with journalist Graeme Wood. Delve into the story of John Georgelas, a high-ranking American ISIS fighter, and examine the factors that drive individuals from privileged backgrounds to embrace extremist ideologies. Gain insights into the beliefs, recruitment tactics, and organizational structure of ISIS, while considering the challenges in countering their influence. Analyze the role of the Internet, mosques, and media in radicalization, and contemplate the future of ISIS and potential strategies to prevent further recruitment of Western individuals.